Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. Teresa Katrinak is 56 years old and was born on 06/29/1966. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Myers knew little about Rorrer's troubles. Puny policy. You people are fighting a losing cause! She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. Disclaimer: PeekYou is not a consumer reporting agency per the Fair Credit Reporting Act. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. This is all BS.She did it. Nailed? She definitely did it. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. After the King told the Duke of York of planned budget cuts to royal funds, the disgraced royal has since refused to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Lodge in Windsor. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. Find lehighvalleylive.com on Facebook. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? None. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. He gave an audio interview to the Wrong Man investigators when they made a surprise visit to his house, but he declined to appear on camera. Dial-a-problem. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. Animals would have for sure. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Why not question some of this evidence? According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. When the cheerleading coach broke the news to Katrina Kohel that she was the only one left on the cheer squad, Kohel was determined to compete anyway. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? Police took a tearful Rorrer to the Davidson County Jail in Lexington. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Crying and distraught, she asked him to get in touch with her boyfriend, Ward and ask him to bring her extra underwear and socks. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Everyone lies. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Rorrer was sentenced to two life sentences at the women's state prison in Muncy, Pennsylvania. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. A spokesperson for Mr Tate told Mail Online that the 36-year-old was taken to a Romanian clinic because he was not allowed to be monitored by his chosen medical team in Dubai. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. False. Hege said Rorrer's baby is with her mother, Patricia Chambers of Lexington. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Bookmark. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. It was just assumed to be crib death. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. You say by definition! And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! He was born in Bethlehem son of the late Martin. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. However, Romanian officials have refused the request, saying he can be attended to in Romania. Andrew Katrinak. ``She sat me down and told me I would probably hear about it,' Myers recalled. Nope. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Both were deceased. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. Over the years, she has been charged with breaking and entering, intoxication, cruelty to animals and larceny in Davidson, Randolph, Gaston, Anson and Forsyth counties, said Detective Lt. Tony Roberson of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Buckingham Palace and the Duke of York have been approached by MailOnline for comment. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. Glenn Myers, 50, who stabled Rorrer's horses in Tyro, said she was a loving horsewoman and mother. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Do you want to automatically post your MailOnline comments to your Facebook Timeline? Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. No explanation given. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. Andrew married Mary A Katrinak (born Ondek). Prosecutor pounds away. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Or did they? The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. ``The lady had a lot of contacts around the country from her horse trading business, and she very well could have disappeared.'. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. You, however seem to have no problem with these hurtful and damaging comments aimed at Rorrer. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Sorry not sorry. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. Mrs. Katrinak's husband, Andrew, reported his wife and son missing in December 1994 after they failed to show up at his mother's house. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? Hair we go. ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. 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Deputies watched the house as often as they could - from the woods, the road and even from the air. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. Rest in peace Joann and Alex. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. A-list trainer shares the ultimate do's and don'ts of workout etiquette - revealing why you should NEVER use a metal water bottle, Trump collaborates with January 6 prison choir in release of new single 'Justice for All' - which dropped ahead of his CPAC appearance, King Charles will offer Prince Harry and Meghan a Buckingham Palace apartment when they visit UK after kicking them out of Frogmore Cottage. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). Its totally irrelevant. No show. Theodore Kohuth, the baby on top of the dead mother. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. Flaw in reasoning. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Especially mice! Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. Your email address will not be published. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. (Nope. Katrinak said he is waiting to hear from his 26-year-old wife,. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. I cant lose them, he told the media. Ballistics experts determined that a bullet removed from Joann Katrinak's body was fired from a .22-caliber pistol similar to one Rorrer owned. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. King Charles is planning to cut the Duke's annual . But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. I very much doubt you are. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. Nope. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. The District Attorney got this one right. About a year ago, Rorrer told Myers about the investigation but said she had been framed. Patricia and her husband broke up after the babys death. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Patricia is a evil monster. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. Have you read the book? And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise.